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John Encaustum's avatar

It's an interesting problem, for sure, but I think the essential qualities – the conversation-seeding and the deliberative richness – need to be split off from the blogosphere form itself, because I don't think the blogosphere died so much as it matured from a sort of soft, squishy larval stage into a harder-edged, chitin-armored adult. Three points on that, any of which may or may not be interesting or ring true to you:

(1) On commenting culture. As the blogosphere developed, I saw the most successful bloggers polarize with respect to their comment sections: many completely checked out, like Tyler Cowen and Mencius Moldbug, while others continued to engage but with increasingly extreme commenting cultures that became mutually exclusive, like many Gawker blogs and Nick Land. What seems to have happened is that initial commenters and their norms were an incoherent mixture of offline people and their offline norms, but as they adapted to online discussion, they specialized and developed recognizable and separable online types. Blogs began catering to these new types selectively and the squishy friendliness of the initial commenting culture gave way to a more segmented, articulated equilibrium of separated types, often mutually hostile.

(2) On the quantity and quality of conversations. The conversations of the blogosphere were new, energetic, and exciting, but they could also have an effect on academic publication like Twitter had on the blogs. Blog reviews of papers took attention away from paper reviews of papers, and they also took away from old high-quality aggregators and secondary popularizers like Science News or Scientific American. Then, just like Twitter started to become shallower and more frustrating as the blogosphere dried up, the blogs had earlier been becoming shallower and more frustrating as the academic papers became more defensive and the legacy aggregators declined in quality and effectiveness. Blogging was "stealing their oxygen", and they were already fighting back before Twitter started stealing the blogs' oxygen, which was hardening the blogosphere in a different way. I count Aaron Swartz's death as a key epitome of this – the punitive response to his JSTOR downloads was a high profile case where legacy academic media struck back against the softer, less property-divided blogging culture.

(3) The forum predators. There were aggressively antisocial online organizations, most famously on SomethingAwful and 4Chan, that were developing alongside the blogosphere and often shaping the blogosphere like wolves shape deer herds in Yellowstone. Quite a few bloggers were groomed into lolcows by these forum groups, and some were deliberately driven to suicide. These forums could pick and choose winners among the bloggers by taking over their comment sections or the comment sections of the aggregators those bloggers would need to distribute through in order to reach independent prominence. Big bloggers were often not aware of these implicit symbioses with forum predators, but I can say from sad experience that the contemporary fascist underground, at least, was aggressively strategizing on this basis and using it to gain online territory before commenting mostly dried up and the action moved to Twitter (and later to Telegram and Signal groupchats).

Given those points, I think the decline of the blogosphere was a matter of irreversible social adaptation that won't have a narrowly technical fix. However, I'm definitely in favor of finding some new means to re-energize the flow of high quality deliberative conversation like we had on the blogosphere for a little while.

Robert Ley's avatar

It's freakin' hard to "seed conversations" when the Substack author never comments on any of the comments the readers make! I comment a fair bit and it's RARE to get any acknowledgement, let alone a real reply, from the author.

While I sadly missed it's beginnings, apparently the blogs did serve that purpose. Did all the authors just get too busy to respond? Are they put off by the increased number of readers and comments as well as the increased fraction of nut-cases that their Substacks produce? (What is a "substack" if not a blog??). One of the still great ones is indeed Andrew Sullivan. James Fallows, too. Andrew has an editor who goes through comments and brings some kudos and many disagreements to Andrew. They are then responded to by Andrew and printed in the following episodes. CLOSE to what you want?

IOW, maybe the atomization of the blogosphere, like the atomization we're seeing of everything else, makes that kind of back-and-forth impossible in that format. Podcasts with great interviewers like Yascha Mounk and Ezra Klein come close. Yascha in particular is great at making his guests Walk the Talk. Probably about as close as we'll get.

Keep trying! We need more eloquent thinkers like you.

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